I just went over to successtalkonline.com forum and looked at the Tri-StarMoney Changer Thread. There are literally pages of people talking about not getting paid, waiting weeks or more for payments, checks, now Alertpay payments.
People are complaining as even some programs are showing payments pending but they can’t upgrade, as payments are pending. Something bad, and it is going to worse, with TSMG.
By passing most of the Black December and January, we have came into the worst February there has been on scams. Thus the new name will be Fraudulent February.
We have had EuTradeltd go down, tied to several others, Troybank’s true colors are shining through, E-Bastion went scam with a nice little letter left behind. and many more. TSMC now showing signs and red flags it’s days are numbered(up to a month payout requests). Might as well through Please-invest into it as well!
All in all 41 States now Require any persons or business sending and receiving funds are required to be licensed in these states:
ALABAMA
ARIZONA
ARKANSAS
CALIFORNIA
COLORADO
CONNECTICUT
DELAWARE
DISTRICT of COLUMBIA
FLORIDA
GEORGIA
HAWAII
IDAHO
ILLINOIS
INDIANA
IOWA
KANSAS
KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA
MAINE
MARYLAND
MISSISSIPPI
MISSOURI
MICHIGAN
NEW HAMPSHIRE
NEW JERSEY
NEW YORK
NORTH CAROLINA
NORTH DAKOTA
OHIO
MASSACHUSETTS
OREGON
PENNSYLVANIA
OKLAHOMA
TENNESSEE
TEXAS
VERMONT
VIRGINIA
WASHINGTON
WEST VIRGINIA
WISCONSIN
WYOMING
Now we can see full that Florida and Michigan are included into the list of States the Require Money Transmitter Licenses.
E-Gold has implemented a new featured in your account area. What this feature does is allow you to Accept or Block US Person from spending to your account. By default it is set to accept from US Persons.
Reasoning I believe this is happening, is due to pressures from Gambling Companies to be able to use E-Gold as payment processor, and E-Gold wanting to stay off of the FBI’s radar.
E-Gold as an option just to everyone outside of the US makes it simpler for Gambling houses and casinos to use E-gold without Trouble from the FBI.
Look forward to allot of Casinos and Gambling Houses to start to use this GREAT Idea from E-Gold very soon!
Below is what it looks like in your E-Gold Account Area. Easy to Turn on and Off!
After a little bit more diggin into the Troybank Saga I have found Some more info that doesn’t look good for Troybank!
You will see 2 Pics below One of Troybanks SSL Cert and the Other of TroybankBonds SSL Cert.
Now I didn’t know Troybank was an issuer of SSL Certificates, go figure! Check out the pics and do your own research.
Notice who the Issuer is? It isn’t Verisign! They created their own SSL Cert!
Same here.
http://troybankbonds.com/
On their website they state and have the Logo from Verisign! WRONG, they created their own!!!
At troybankbonds look at the Pic of the Stock Cert. Right click on it….It is a Pic from Google Images!
John and I just Finished The Interview.
1. Do you feel you are risking your readership, while running this venture? Due to you even admit that it will end.
Am not sure what you mean by my feeling that am risking my readership. You mean risking my readership’s money? Or risking losing my readership? So am not sure how to answer that one. If I felt that I was risking their money I would not do it. If I felt I was risking my reputation, I would not do it. And as you can tell I hemmed and hawed for quite a long time before launching one of my own. And I decided it would not be a surf site. Those are … becoming extinct.
Do I even admit… is that what you mean? Of course it will end! Who are you? The higher plans will eventually end, and it will most likely be due to momentum slowing down and less folks coming in and bringing in new blood. Did 12DailyPro end? Would they ever have ended if not for Stormpay? Of course they would have, eventually. Recall that these are not investment plans and folks are fickle. They get into a good thing at the start and somewhere along the line doubt sets in, flags are raised, and the river starts drying up.
But… the long term plan will go on and on as I have located a good ForEx trader (with the help of a friend) and my hope is that my long term plan will be entirely sustained by ForEx trading. So that particular plan will keep growing. Hence 9Planetnosurf will not shut down for quite a while. But what if the ForEx guy gets hit by a bus? Well there you go.
2. You have close to 2 years experience of rating and reviewing programs you have seen literally hundreds, if not thousands, come and go. With paying upwards to 14% on referral commissions, and the rapid growth rate, if you were not the Owner what would be your assessment of how long his program would last, and risk assessment?
If I were not the owner, first I’d have to know WHO the owner would be. If the owner was found out to be very well known, honest, and so on, I’d say the programme should last quite a long time. But… upwards of 14% ref comms? That would last for a while and stimulate recruiting activity, but that owner would have to bring that down eventually. And the growth rapid would have to be not TOO rapid, either that or long term growth has to be steady/sustained.
But if the owner were an unknown? I’d say it would be a high risk and I would not even recommend it because the lifeblood of such a programme requires trust, to bring in a lot of folks. And these days yelling about how great your programme is and how great it will be and so on, just will not cut it.
3. What is your current Exit Strategy, when will you know it is time to call it quits? Do you have the criteria in place for this?
No am flying by the seat of my pants! Just kidding. When I see the river drying up, unlike other Admin, I will blow the whistle, stop spends in the higher ROI plans (close the for further spends), let that money get paid out and accept no more new spends there. As to the long term plan? Since it will be supported (soon) by ForEx there is no reason to close it down and no reason to stop new signups. New signups would only be able to play in the Long Term Plan. And… if all goes well, I may even open up new plans with more realistic ROIs, but slightly higher than the Long Term Plan. So unlike most HYIPs and Surfs… this one will most likely go on and on. Can you hear that song? This Titanic will not go entirely under. That’s the plan.
4. What is going to be your salary percentages from the venture?
Why do you ask? Let’s just say that it will be reasonable. I would guess that your concern would be that I would be taking too much. Well, it is far smaller than most Admin take.
5. Did you setup your 3 different programs with 3 different E-Gold Accounts? i.e. if one program is about ready to fail you can shut it down instead of the whole venture, or taking from another part of your venture to pay out on the one failing.
I have multiple accounts set up. One of them is strictly for the Long Term Plan and that will not be interfered with by any failing plans. I continue to analyze how much money is coming into the middle plans and how much into the two higher plans. Right now the pool for these is not segragated, but I do have the stats for each, so that if I see that the middle plans need to be on their own then I will make it so. In this way they are protected from the Big Boys and their Big Bucks. The latter should be self-sufficient as a crowd. And if enough of them participate then those plans will be viable.
And yes, as stated before, my intention is the shut down failing plans, not the entire programme.
6. Are you going to use the support system only or will you engage in forums for support?
I am already engaged, on an hourly basis even, in the MMG thread for 9planetnosurf.
I also answer many, many, e-mails both support and admin related.
7. When your program closes, do you feel that there will be anyone that is upset at you at the way you ran your program?
There are always those types of folks. Those are usually gamblers who cannot resist betting the farm, so that is expected. But for the most part I have a good reputation and many of the participants understand the risks involved in these types of ventures. In any case, you must amend that, as the programme itself is not likely to close due to the Long Term Plan being completely supported by outside resources.
8. With naming your Program NOsurf, is that a wake up call to the current Surfs that they are not fooling anyone, that no one actually sees the ads, or it is fractional at best?
Well, I did not mean it as a wake up call when I coined that term in early January (perhaps even in mid to late December of last year). The reason I did that was because I did myself see that surf sites and autosurf sites were a sham, in the sense that, really, folks were not watching those ads! And it was and is just an excuse to make the game look legal. Now mind you, a few Admins did give it a go and trying to make that industry legitimate by trying to recruit REAL advertising (Dustin of DSM, Israel and his partner of the Command series of programmes are notable) and I commend them. But… I knew it would be a failed effort as the surf industry has the wrong target Market. The real target market for surfs and autsurfs are gamblers, game players, risk takers, folks that want their money “doubled” in a short period of time, not shoppers! So I finally had to put it out there honestly and that’s why you see me telling you the real truth about surfs on the home page of 9planetnosurf.com
ManicSurf had me going for a while, as they actually did force you to read the ads because you had to rate them. Well, eventually even I got tired of that. I would glance at the same old ad and remember the last rating I gave it! So that defeats that!
9. Would you say, in essence, your program is a “Ponzi Game”?
The Long Term Plan part of the programme is not a ponzi game (soon… again, a Trader has been found and probably within a week or two we will be trading; so for now it is a ponzi). The other plans clearly depend on new money coming in, so yes, they are a game. But I stress that folks already know this. And you have to be careful how you say this and where you print this. Some idiot could actually take my statements and get this programme shut down. Which would be very bad news. May as well shut every programme out there right now. Because except for a few, 99.9% of them are ponzi games.
Finally I stress that I have nothing against ponzi games as long as the Admin does not hide the fact by lying. By saying they are trading in ForEx, realestate, stocks, and whatever when it is quite clear that they are a ponzi. If the Admin does not deny it, and if they are also honest and known, I myself would (and have on many occasions) get into a programme like that early on, get my initial spend out, get some profit and not bet the farm. But most folks ignore that kind of advice in preference to their avarice. Ooops, sorry, desires.
10. Newbies coming into the arena, do you have any words of wisdom to them about your program, or any program for that matter, besides the, “Don’t invest what you can’t afford to loose.”, words of wisdom?
Newbies should read my BLOG and your site as well, first. Before they spend one cent. They should also realize that most of the HYIPs, surfs, autosurfs are simply games and they all depend on new money coming in. I would also tell them to avoid all those programmes that offer ridiculous ROIs, either on an hourly basis or on a daily bassis, and that means anything over 10% Profit per month is suspect. But if they do find one that is reasonable and the Admin seems to be known (how? Surf the forums, read all you can, before you put your money down, see what others say about that Admin) then get in early.
The other thing I would tell them is that in order to make good money at these games they actually have to come in with over a grand or two! And use it wisely. They cannot expect to come into this arena with ten bucks, or even a hundred, and expect to make some kind of meaningful income! At best consider it as play money. There are far too many folks that are losing in these games. Either they come in with nothing meaningful, or they come in too late in a programme, or they fail to get their initial spend out but have put it all back in…. There are many reasons. And so I would say that newbies should not be spending anything until they have familiarized themselves with some good sites that report on all this, such as 9PlanetReviews.com, Ponziscams.com (I’ve looked at it today and am impressed, good job!), and the various other Blog sites (I list many of them on mine) that are out there. Then, once they have read a lot of the material that is there, make an informed choice! What else can you do? Juts don’t follow those who yell the loudest about their particular programme.
11. Will you consider opening another program after this one ends?
Again, I plan to keep this one going, even if with just the Long Term Plan. What I will consider is opening new plans. These folks seem to like that. Even if a game ends and the Admin comes back, and folks are fairly sure that the Admin did not cheat them… they will play again. So… why launch a whole new programme with a different name when I can launch new plans? So that’s the plan.
If you would like to Sign up for 9PlanteNOSurf Please go over to Everymansmonitor.com
I was over at NPGForum.com and I saw a great post by NetZen, asking about who has started the Most Sites. Well it seems the answer is Jason Grant and Stacy Hensley with about 9 Programs. I will be doing a follow up with the Due Diligence I have on all their Sites I can find in the next few Days!
I asked John of 9PlanetsnoSurf for an Interview. The questions I want to ask are not the typical Questions asked during interviews. I hope he honors my request, but don’t get me wrong I truly do understand if he does not have the time.
We are Currently under a DDOS Attack, our DDOS Protection and Server Load Quotas Seem to be doing the Job just fine. If you get a CPU OVER Quota Limit Screen, when trying to get to PonziScams.com or DDToolBar.com, well that is part of the protection so the DDOS doesn’t kill our server.
You will See that it is on Ponziscams.com as well as DDToolBar.com No Worries, We are not going Anywhere!
The Actual DDToolBar Program is on a completely different Server! LOL
Apparently We are doing something Right, and Someone is Angry!!!
Ok guys I made an error, you see even the best ones can commit a mistake sometimes!
Well all has been said: e-bastion, EBPC and Troybank (and 3 other big programs Smile are managed by my team. Our plan was to try a private program with Bastion, it has been a small, very small success, with only $450k got.
Troybank of course is our better plan, just had to purchase a domain name that was created in 1996 to make idiots believe we were online since 1996 LOL! A clever guy had the idea to look at webarchive.org and saw the truth Sad And a stupid boy living in Tallinn investigated and saw that our address is false; he asked us money to not reveal the truth, we sent $10k to him and he agreed to close his mouth.
Anyway time is now to turn off the light for Troybank too. Our last run offering shares hasn’t been a so big success as we expected, maybe people aren’t so stupid now? What a shame!
Our site will stay online a small time to attract the last bucks we can! Don’t lose your time to investigate anyway, guys! We already run away from a lot of big programs, people promise to find us, and just kiss their ass!
Hey… Don’t forget to buy one or two Troybank shares Smile)))))
Alan Forestier
Markus Laatsarus
etc etcShalom,
David Smile
The Web Archive post he is talking about this post,
I do not know why they would make this as a post on their forum. Either he is telling the Truth, or they are trying to Setup their competitor Troybank.
While Talking to Leo at Drunkonlife He told me about Invex and Their Swan Song Letter :
INVEX’s Final Letter to investors before disappearing
This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from
us… until we open our next HYIP
We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after
us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a
really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the
sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a
new laptop, installed some fresh programs.3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the
account, and got a nice true debit card.4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.
5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by… you, idiots
who “invested”OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without
possibility to track us. A major question was “Must we open a real
company”. We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe
all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax
Group Corp. are pure fantasyOkay, let’s go to work now!
1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal
scammers’ best place, paying with e-gold.2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with… the debit card
coming from the bank account above3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from…. an
e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU idiots who “invested” !To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly
recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc.
You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing
chained between servers who cannot track them.
And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this
nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the
computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically
deletedOther pros say “Let’s track the money”! Great idea, but don’t forget
that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special
servicesHow did we withdraw all your nice donations? That’s easy, thanks to
mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our
friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard
received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no
“$800/day limits”, and telling us how to use the cards at the best.
Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another storyWe also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no
problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank
accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and
the US Track the money there, dear friends!Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and
where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he
“verifies ALL data” from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly
offered him 2% more “to preserve our privacy” Look at our dialogue by email:- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don’t want to
work with scammers.- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and
just want to keep a low profile.- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4%
fee instead of the regular 2%.Thank you mister G. ))
As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of
the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other
scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people
we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure
our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring
programs, including the biggest and “most reliable” (LOOOOL) one!Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help
poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some
“political” associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the
Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and
the balance is for us.We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of
them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a
few years, and all is working fine!But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it
QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara#bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us,
including the commissions they got by sending YOU IDIOTS, to Invex.
These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!As a clever guy told in some forum, “there were no guarantees, so no
need to cry”. YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless
Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your
forum, try to guess why…!), we even recommended those who ask for
guarantees to go to their local bank They didn’t? THEIR CHOICE!When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you
were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems
that you don’t understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you
continue to “invest” here and there, and that is good… FOR US! For
you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the “Andrewunknown”,
proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover
from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover
in his list of “no ponzi”, LOL, some of them are from us ))))Now some personal messages:
- liquidteq#gmail.com threatened us to send “the FBI and the CIA against
us” ) better you keep your energy to work and recover your $600 ONLY
that you sent us, than saying such BS )))- “AROBASE”, “LUCIEN”, “IGOR”: YOU will be refunded partially, we
contacted you some hours ago.- “vanderschalk-group” is a clever guy: He made about $45k profit from Invex
- “ANATOLI” is the best one: he made about $170k profit from Invex, even
with what we kept from him when we closed!- lewisfargo, caro, anhvn06, ydna, janhkok, profitondemand, HIPsyD,
promax, brewmanau, adtype13sg, , Johnnyslide, etc etc are also in big
profit (Between $10k and $50k) from Invex.Feel free to find and contact them to ask to share ))
Well that’s all, folks! We are anyway in touch with a few of you through
other HYIP, under other names of course! Good luckShalom!
Renaud, Kathy, Oliver, David.PS. This mail has been sent from an internet public place, using a
notebook setup with a false MAC address, a wifi connection, and we
connect through an encrypted connection that involves JAP and TORR. Good
luck to track us
http://www.drunkonlife.com/invex-s-final-swan-song.html Check out how similar it is!
They even signed the Letter the Same Way “Shalom”
The only name their the Same is David.
I would bet this is the EXACT Same Scammers!!!!!
Late last week a civil RICO action was filed in the California Central District of the United States District Court. The suit is connected to another state court action filed earlier this year in Riverside, California. While both suits focus on what is alleged to be a $1.2B fraud on real estate and Iraqi dinar “investors,” the RICO case highlights the alleged intensive use of federally regulated communications systems to perpetrate the alleged fraud throughout many states. It is alleged that the perpetrators of the fraud caused $1.2B in bad real estate loans, stole the identities of loan applicants to take out credit lines without victim permission, and that they failed to provided hundreds of millions of Iraqi dinars as promised to investors.
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